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the name of Oyghurque is totally wrong, how can people correct it?
 
*[[User talk:Jose77/Archives/Archive1| Archive 1]]
== What gives you the right??? ==
 
Where do you ghet the right to replace all Arabic letters on this Wikipedia? First of all you are not Uyghur. Second of all, how you do not realize that Arabic script is MOST WIDELY USED ALPHABET IN WORLD FOR UYGHUR LANGUAGE? Maybe you have personal vendetta against this alphabet, but it is used by most Uyghurs. Please do not. (Unsigned user - --[[User:توشقان|توشقان]])
 
:For your information, I was the one who created those articles in the first place. Therefore I have the right to delete them if I want to. Besides, most of those articles do not have any proper content.
 
:Also for your infirmation, the [http://www.omniglot.com/writing/uyghur.htm Uyghur language] was originally written with the Orkhon alphabet, a runiform script derived from or inspired by the Sogdian script, which was ultimately derived from the Aramaic script.
 
:Between the 8th and the 16th century, Uyghur was written with an alphabet derived from Sogdian known as Old Uyghur. Unlike Sogdian, which was written from right to left in horizontal lines, the Old Uyghur alphabet was written from left to right in vertical columns, or in other words, it was a version of Sogdian rotated 90° to the left. This type of script was later adopted by the Mongols and Manchus.
 
:I would also like to note that not all Uyghurs prefer the Arabic script . Here is
a comment made by an Uyghur named Kiyim Kemal:
 
:"''Yes, I think it will help a lot to have wikipedia to become a common source for Uyghurs.... I think it is also becoming a common practice to use Latin Alphabets as the main vs. Arabic or cyrillic letters and most Uyghurs know Latin alphabet....''"
 
If you still do not believe me. then you can personally ask them yourselves. Here are their email addresses:
 
Veli Kemal Washington University in St. Louis, '''aa328@cornell.edu'''
#Kiyim(Ken) Kemal, University of Oxford.email: '''kk61@cornell.edu'''
:You can also ask the [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uygurlar/ Uyghur email groups].
 
:Nevertheless if any Uyghurs only wish to use the arabic script then they can always go to [http://wiki.yulghun.com/index.php/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A8%DB%95%D8%AA YulghunWiki] instead.
 
--[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 20:49, 21 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
::''Lo siento, Jose, pero'' I agree with the bloke who decried your use of Latin script. True, you may have written such-and-such a number of articles. But they look alot better in Arabic. The Latin script should be used sparingly. Great, there are actually one or two Uyghurs who prefer using the Latin alphabet! Good for them! But there are quite alot of others who prefer the Arabic. I, myself, prefer the Arabic for many languages. And I wonder if your computer might be lacking special fonts to render such characters as ۆ, ۇ, ڭ, etc. If you can't read those characters, don't worry: I can understand why. Nevertheless, if any Uyghurs only wish to use the Arabic script, let them do so here. Don't hog this place to yourself: nobody likes an egotist but himself…—[[User:شاشليق|شاشليق]] 21:52, 21 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
:::Of course they may do so if they wish to. I am only deleting the articles that I myself created. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 22:11, 21 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
 
== Latin vs Arabic alphabet==
 
Hello,
 
I seen that you remove our Uyghur Alphabets from this website and I wondered why. It is a beautiful alphabet why you do not like it. It is official in East Turkestan (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region), is used by majority of Uyghurs. Kiyim Kemal is wrong. Perhaps among Uyghurs living outside of Turkestan this practice is common but inside East Turkestan we still use these Alphabets. Until 1987, your country (People's Republic of China) forced us to write with Latin alphabets, but we never used it and it was Unpopular. They seen then we do not like their Alphabets. We like our Tradition, see logo in the corner, it is Beautiful, it is like Water, Latin alphabet it is like knives cutting. I think that if all Latin Alphabets in the world are changed to Arabics we have no more war or Violence. Look at Somalia, they used Arabic alphabet once and had peace with themself, now they use Latin Alphabets and has violence. Same with many of the rest of Africa. But this is just my Opinion anyway, does not matter. What does matter is that we Uyghurlar uses Arabics now mostly. Please be replacing it. --[[User:توشقان|توشقان]] 00:41, 26 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
 
:Here is my opinion: (You do not necessarily need to agree with me)
:The Arabic alphabet looks like someone scribbling whereas the Latin alphabet looks neat and tidy.
:I personally think that you Kashgar Uyghurs have been heavily intoxicated by Radical Islamic Ideology. Uyghurs living in Turpan, Ili, Ghulja, Urumqi etc. do not think this way. All the Central Asian Turkic republics such as Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan, Kirghistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey either use the Latin or Cyrillic alphabet. Changing all the world alphabets into arabic will NOT guarantee peace or non-violence. I know that some of your folk had gone down to Afghanistan to receive military training assistance from the Taliban Extremists [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_detainees_in_Guantanamo] who in turn have cordial relations with Al-Qaeda. As we all know, Al-Qaeda was responsible for the September 11 Terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre in the United States, murdering '''2,992''' innocent civilians.
:Is this the type of 'peace' that you wish to achieve?
 
:Anyway, let's '''stop''' talking about politics because it is meaningless and a waste of time. If any Uyghurs prefer writing articles using the Arabic or Cyrillic script instead of Latin, then they have the freedom to do so here. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 02:25, 27 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 02:25, 27 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
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